tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post5794735498324761413..comments2023-10-02T10:57:07.769+02:00Comments on Birdseed's Tunedown: How Conceptuality Destroyed My Taste In MusicBirdseedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-63829033563971372212009-12-14T05:49:43.422+01:002009-12-14T05:49:43.422+01:00I guess the difference between p90 and insanity is...I guess the difference between p90 and insanity is one builds muscle more than the other?? Hmmm.. I think I will go with insanity. <br />I already purchased it from this site<br /><a href="http://shauntinsanityworkout.com/" rel="nofollow"><br />Shaun T Insanity</a><br />Thanks.adminhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17068915162709877965noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-29998317132227807222008-12-15T13:25:00.000+01:002008-12-15T13:25:00.000+01:00I know the feeling all too well... After years of ...I know the feeling all too well... After years of conceptual thinking, though, I believe I am gradually getting back to enjoying music on a literal level.<BR/><BR/>The interesting thing is that when I was in my heavy conceptual period, my more literal-oriented friends thought I was a complete killjoy. "Do you ever just <I>enjoy</I> music?" they'd ask... It was hard to explain that there was a certain joy inherent to <I>thinking</I> about music. I don't think there's anything wrong with that...Comb & Razorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11912912211584098914noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-23612446728958892802008-12-15T12:01:00.000+01:002008-12-15T12:01:00.000+01:00Maybe... I'm not so sure, because at the same time...Maybe... I'm not so sure, because at the same time I've moved from "listening music" to "functional music", which tends to be all-"body" and where that aspect is often blunted on repeated listenings. Novelty - body shock - can be the same thing. <BR/><BR/>No, if anything I've lost the <I>emotive</I> attachment to music (as per the originally Platonic scheme of mind vs instinct vs emotions). Not to what music represents or how it's created, but to its actual emotional content.Birdseedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-29688452246604880582008-12-14T18:06:00.000+01:002008-12-14T18:06:00.000+01:00One of music's greatest abilities is that it can o...One of music's greatest abilities is that it can overcome the mind/body divide so easily... Sounds like you are reifying that divide in favor of the mind! Think deeply but listen to your ears, not your sense of novelty.Gavinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13465384822564027635noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-32960793161942271742008-12-14T10:42:00.000+01:002008-12-14T10:42:00.000+01:00It would have to be our own masterpieces, obviousl...It would have to be our own masterpieces, obviously. <BR/><BR/>But even then, I think I'm mostly regressing according to your scheme - I used to think there were great albums when I was 20, stuff other people had defined for me mostly. Then I started looking beyond, at the "anti-thetical" stuff too I guess, eventually finding people with similar tastes to my own. Now, I just get kicks out of finding sounds no-one has heard of before, hence the <A HREF="http://downwithtunes.blogspot.com/2008/06/genre-of-week-rigsar.html" REL="nofollow">Bhutan obsession</A> among other things.<BR/><BR/>I still haven't finished with the systemic understanding project. I'm not sure that's ever going to be done.Birdseedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-19880879444598149272008-12-14T01:07:00.000+01:002008-12-14T01:07:00.000+01:00Yeah but really, who fucking cares about those "ma...Yeah but really, who fucking cares about those "masterpieces"? Do you care?<BR/><BR/>I used to care about music that sounded like nothing I'd heard before. I hadn't heard much when I was 14 so really that meant most music.<BR/><BR/>Then, I cared about music me and my friends liked. After that, I was riding for music that was the anti-thesis to everything my life was.<BR/><BR/>Now? A mixture of those, I guess. I do believe there is "high art" in pop music, absolutely, and by that I mean music that seems to be out of it's time, and therefore defining of its time. <BR/><BR/>But that stuff is usually scooped up and given props later, by old people like us. Discuss.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-64990504035507707682008-12-13T22:46:00.000+01:002008-12-13T22:46:00.000+01:00Carl Dahlhaus, a music theorist I'm reading for sc...Carl Dahlhaus, a music theorist I'm reading for school at the moment, claims that the aesthetic qualities of music are lost if you look at it too closely. He's all for a systemic understanding of music and music history, but he practically begs in his book to please exclude the masterpieces and just appreciating them as art.<BR/><BR/>There's lots of things wrong with the idea of a canon, but there he may actually have some sort of point. If only we knew what the masterpieces are...Birdseedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-18717706730313864832008-12-13T22:01:00.000+01:002008-12-13T22:01:00.000+01:00Doesn't it come down to whether you listen to musi...Doesn't it come down to whether you listen to music for pleasure or for identification? I know when I was like 12, I still listened only for pleasure and I was frequently amazed by how good it sounded, how it made me feel.<BR/><BR/>By 15 or 16, I was listening for identification purposes. Music had become a weapon against my surroundings. It became intellectual, because the artists that weren't a part of my war was by default the enemy. And I had to begin drawing charts and analyzing that shit.<BR/><BR/>Music writers often talk about how music makes them feel like they're 16 years old all over again, "pure adrenalin", and so on. I call bullshit on that. If you in your youth are retarded enough to make music some sort of ammunition in your life, I don't think you really can stop thinking about it in that way.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com