tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post4062528871051730764..comments2023-10-02T10:57:07.769+02:00Comments on Birdseed's Tunedown: Is there any other art where fine is necessarily equal to upper class?Birdseedhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-3874128066616237492008-03-04T09:42:00.000+01:002008-03-04T09:42:00.000+01:00Great, thanks.Great, thanks.Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357218009080885153noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-30703025478274767012008-03-03T19:49:00.000+01:002008-03-03T19:49:00.000+01:00There was some youth orientated movements, like th...There was some youth orientated movements, like the Woodcraft Folk or the Vandervogel in Germany, that used folk music vaguely the way you describe. But you'd be hard pressed to consider it "youth music" the way we think of it today - the idea of a generation gap didn't really exist yet.<BR/><BR/>The jazz age of the 20s, following on from the removal of an entire generation in WWI, provides the first proper youth cultures coming about, but it took well into the forties before music became marketed especially to teens. <BR/><BR/>I recommend Jon Savage's book <A HREF="http://www.randomhouse.co.uk/catalog/book.htm?command=Search&db=main.txt&eqisbndata=0701163615" REL="nofollow">Teenage</A> if you're really interested in the subject.Birdseedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01161105277182690887noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6146962885201070339.post-57491274559983558122008-03-03T13:12:00.000+01:002008-03-03T13:12:00.000+01:00Something that occurred to me whilst reading your ...Something that occurred to me whilst reading your 2 types of music post was I couldn't think of any Rock'n'Roll style music (by your definition of Rock'n'Roll) before Rock'n'Roll really started. Was there music pre-20th Century that was for the kids in that way? <BR/><BR/>Possibly naively I tend to think of music in Britan before the 20th Century as Classical or Folk, was there anything else?<BR/><BR/>Was there youth orientated folk?Mikehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11357218009080885153noreply@blogger.com